Disciple Makers Podcast with Torben Sondergaard
Join Torben Sondergaard as he hosts practical, honest discussions shaped by his missionary journeys and real-life experiences of following Jesus. Featuring guests from around the world, the podcast explores making disciples, spreading the Gospel, and living as followers of Jesus in today’s world. The discussions reflect a lived-out faith marked by obedience, boldness, and a grounded hope in the return of Jesus.
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Disciple Makers Podcast with Torben Sondergaard
Natural & Spiritual Growth
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If there is a revelation that can help you understand the walk with God and how to effectively make disciples and bear fruit, it is the revelation about spiritual levels that I want to share here.
In the natural, the seed (sperm) goes into the egg, growth happens, and it ends with a birth through water. The baby breathes in the air and cries out.
In the spiritual, we receive a seed (The word of God) that starts to grow in us and ends with a birth through water (baptism). We breathe in the air (spirit) and cry out in new tongues.
After the birth has taken place in the natural, the baby has no discernment and doesn’t know what is good and bad to put into their mouth. They cannot feed themselves; someone needs to feed them. They need milk, but as they grow, they move to solid food and eventually eat by themselves. As they continue to grow, they become a young boy, a young man, and eventually have their own children, repeating the process with the next generation.
So it is in the spiritual. But because we don't recognize these spiritual levels, we are like someone giving a steak to a baby and milk to a teenager. The baby cannot eat and will die, and the teenager does not get what he needs to grow and become strong.
Many are still sitting in church for many years and have not grown up. They should have been those teaching others by now, but instead they still need to be fed, and sadly, they never really grow up.
Yes, there is much to say about this, and I highly recommend you take the time to listen to this new teaching I just shared today. It will provoke and challenge you, but it will be eye-opening and help you understand many things. Also, about the church that should be like a family and not an orphanage with no parents, only leaders.
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